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1. Rob Reynolds (ferventcoder)

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   Issue-FeatureThis is a feature request for the Windows Package Manager client.This is a feature request for the Windows Package Manager client.

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   mapill-msft

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   linked a pull request that will close this issueUpdating readme telemetry section #197on May 19, 2020
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   closed this as completedin #197on May 19, 2020
5. ferventcoder commented on May 20, 2020

   

   Rob Reynolds (ferventcoder)

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   Howdy, thanks for updating a note - I'm sorry though - I asked for how to opt out of telemetry entirely. Surely there is a way. If not, you will want to add it. Please reopen this issue.

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6. mapill-msft commented on May 20, 2020

   

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   Hi, As I mentioned in the pull request for the readme update, diagnostic data collection (telemetry) is not enabled for private builds of this project and is enabled only on the release builds (https://github.com/microsoft/winget-cli/releases) and the app installed via Microsoft store. This data collection is covered by windows 10 privacy, You can find the windows 10 privacy statement and details of controlling the diagnostic and feedback settings here -https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/4468236/diagnostics-feedback-and-privacy-in-windows-10-microsoft-privacy

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7. chawyehsu commented on May 20, 2020

   

   Chawye Hsu (chawyehsu)

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   I asked for how to opt out of telemetry entirely. Surely there is a way. If not, you will want to add it. Please reopen this issue.

   It's not possible to let MS give you the option to opt-out of telemetry in their releases and that's why VS Codium comes out. This is not good.

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8. ferventcoder commented on May 20, 2020

   

   Rob Reynolds (ferventcoder)

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   Um no, you need to allow opting out of telemetry. That's not being a good citizen.

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9. ShadowJonathan commented on May 21, 2020

   

   Jonathan de Jong (ShadowJonathan)

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   Even if it's a global registry key that people need to explicitly set to opt-out of telemetry, the option needs to be there.

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10. anjanb commented on May 21, 2020

    

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    that's a shame. I hope MS will reconsider.

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11. akatechis commented on May 21, 2020

    

    Alexandros Katechis (akatechis)

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    I guess this is the new "open source": release the code in the open, but package it behind closed doors and release a binary with tracking added.

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12. cocowalla commented on May 21, 2020

    

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    mapill-msft you haven't actually responded to the question being asked.

    2 things should happen here:

    1. The readme/docs should be updated to be clear about what telemetry is being collected
    2. There should be a clear and easy way to opt-out of Telemetry (opt-in would be better, but that's clearly not going to happen) - and no, "build it yourself" is not good enough

    As long as what telemetry is logged is clear, I most probably won't mind (like with VS Code for example, where I'm happy to share what they collect if it helps) - but it must be clear, and it must be possible to opt-out at a minimum.

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13. dunossauro commented on May 21, 2020

    

    Eduardo Mendes (dunossauro)

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    Alexandros Katechis (@akatechis), this is not the "new open source". That's how open source is. Freedom for large corporations and the same prison for users

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14. bhartvigsen commented on May 21, 2020

    

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    Hi, As I mentioned in the pull request for the readme update, diagnostic data collection (telemetry) is not enabled for private builds of this project and is enabled only on the release builds (https://github.com/microsoft/winget-cli/releases) and the app installed via Microsoft store. This data collection is covered by windows 10 privacy, You can find the windows 10 privacy statement and details of controlling the diagnostic and feedback settings here -https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/4468236/diagnostics-feedback-and-privacy-in-windows-10-microsoft-privacy

    Why do you feel your users aren't entitled to privacy?

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15. rodalpho commented on May 21, 2020

    

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    You say "the release build is covered by Windows 10 privacy", but Windows 10 does not permit Home or Pro users to opt-out of telemetry. Only Enterprise and Education licenses are permitted to do this.

    1. Can MS confirm that when an Enterprise or Education Windows 10 install has telemetry set to "Security", renamed "Diagnostic Data Off" in Win10 version 2004, winget will not dispatch any telemetry back to MS or elsewhere?

    2. What telemetry specifically is sent when a Windows 10 Home or Pro install has telemetry set to "Basic", the minimum permitted level? Can it be found in the "Windows 10 Diagnostic Data Viewer" app?

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17. showengineer commented on May 21, 2020

    

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    Sorry but GDPR states that every user has the right to opt-out?
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    linked a pull request that will close this issueUpdating readme to include instructions to opt out of telemetry. #277on May 21, 2020
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    closed this as completedin #277on May 21, 2020
21. denelon commented on May 21, 2020

    

    Demitrius Nelon (denelon)

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    All, I'm looking through the rest of the Issues. I haven't caught fully up yet. I'd like to propose a new Issue for an explicit "Opt-Out of Telemetry" feature build directly into the client if that hasn't already been created.
22. denelon commented on May 21, 2020

    

    Demitrius Nelon (denelon)

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    Opt-Out of Telemetry #279
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24. rodalpho commented on May 21, 2020

    

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    From the PR, winget sends no telemetry when Diagnostics & Feedback is set to Basic. If so that is sufficient for me personally. Thanks for the clarification.

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25. jsalatas commented on May 22, 2020

    

    John Salatas (jsalatas)

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    The readme mentions you collect telemetry, but it doesn't include information on how to opt out. Opting out is critical, and understanding how should be provided.

    Well, you can always just download the source code (MIT License), comment out anything you don't liike, and compile it yourself!

    That's the real power of FOSS. Right? :)

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