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English (Denmark) locale uses wrong date/time format #24134
Description
The en_DK locale has always been a clever workaround for the lack of a proper locale that features:
- English
- Sane date format - ISO8601 (yyyy-mm-dd)
- 24h time
- week starting on Monday
Proof:
$ LC_TIME=en_US.UTF-8 date
Sat Nov 14 04:31:38 PM CET 2020
$ LC_TIME=en_DK.UTF-8 date
2020-11-14T16:31:41 CET
(Fun fact: This locale has nothing to do with Denmark, see https://unix.stackexchange.com/a/272665)
Selecting the English (Denmark) locale in Nextcloud 19.04.4 however gives you inferior mm/dd/yyyy and 12h time. This is undoubedly a bug.
#15381 is related. #15457 and #14785 are NOT related, as this issue isn't about language, but date/time formats.
Thanks!
Server configuration
Operating system:
Debian Linux 10
Web server:
Apache 2.4.38-3+deb10u4
Database:
MariaDB 10.3.25-0+deb10u1
PHP version:
7.3.19-1~deb10u1
Nextcloud version: (see Nextcloud admin page)
19.0.4
Updated from an older Nextcloud/ownCloud or fresh install:
updated
Where did you install Nextcloud from:
integrated auto-installer/updater
Signing status:
No errors have been found.
Nextcloud configuration:
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"nope"
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"overwrite.cli.url": "https:\/\/nextcloud.erppc.net\/",
"overwritewebroot": "\/",
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"dbtype": "mysql",
"version": "19.0.4.2",
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"dbpassword": "***REMOVED SENSITIVE VALUE***",
"installed": true,
"loglevel": 2,
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"theme": "",
"maintenance": false,
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"memcache.local": "\\OC\\Memcache\\APCu",
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"app_install_overwrite": [
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}
}
Client configuration
Browser:
Firefox 82.0.2
Operating system:
Linux
Activity
[-]Denmark locale uses wrong date/time format[/-][+]English (Denmark) locale uses wrong date/time format[/+]szaimen commentedon Jun 17, 2021
Is this Issue still valid in NC21.0.2? If not, please close this issue. Thanks! :)
haarp commentedon Jun 17, 2021
Yes. In 21.0.2:
rigrig commentedon Oct 27, 2022
Still an issue in 25.0.0:
asavah commentedon Nov 3, 2022
Many english locales are wrong.
English (europe) uses mm/dd/yyyy format, which is NOT used anywhere in Europe.
The developers should be aware that at least some English speaking people are not from America,
and that fixing bugs which were open for years might be a good thing.
szaimen commentedon Jan 23, 2023
Hi, please update to 24.0.9 or better 25.0.3 and report back if it fixes the issue. Thank you!
My goal is to add a label like e.g. 25-feedback to this ticket of an up-to-date major Nextcloud version where the bug could be reproduced. However this is not going to work without your help. So thanks for all your effort!
If you don't manage to reproduce the issue in time and the issue gets closed but you can reproduce the issue afterwards, feel free to create a new bug report with up-to-date information by following this link: https://github.com/nextcloud/server/issues/new?assignees=&labels=bug%2C0.+Needs+triage&template=BUG_REPORT.yml&title=%5BBug%5D%3A+
2 remaining items
artonge commentedon Feb 21, 2023
Seems like it is due to moment.js not having a comprehensive list of locales. The solution would be to move to another date library that rely on the Intl API.
szaimen commentedon Feb 21, 2023
sounds good to me
adripo commentedon Mar 1, 2023
I confirm that the issue is still present in latest 24.0.10 version.
Also English(Ireland) has wrong configuration. Week starts on Sunday instead of Monday.
adripo commentedon Mar 1, 2023
@szaimen FYI moment.js development is being stopped.
As they are suggesting, maybe we don't need moment.js anymore
lyallp commentedon Jun 14, 2023
Nextcloud 25.0.3 and Calendar 4.4.2 still exhibit this behaviour, as in shows Sunday as the left column in the calendar, when first day of week is Monday (English - Australia)
bendev25689 commentedon Jun 27, 2023
Nextcloud 26.0.2. Denmark locale is still wrong.
Australian locale is also still wrong. We start the week on monday. Source: https://www.timeanddate.com/calendar/days/first-day-of-the-week.html
An interface such as the one in synology calendar would be ideal:
jm355 commentedon Feb 10, 2024
This still seems to be an issue, nextcloud 28.0.2.5
ToppDev commentedon Jan 3, 2025
Still an issue in nextcloud 30.0.4
susnux commentedon Mar 13, 2025
The data used for locales is not provided by Nextcloud. We use - like many other tools - the Unicode CLDR data.
So this needs to be fixed in CLDR: https://cldr.unicode.org/#how-to-contribute
jm355 commentedon Mar 14, 2025
Per https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/62316/why-is-there-no-euro-english-locale/272665#272665, it looks like en_150 is also close, but I don't know how to select it in Nextcloud
jm355 commentedon Mar 14, 2025
https://unicode-org.atlassian.net/browse/CLDR-18418