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As requirements and issues come in, maybe it makes sense to look for an alternative sooner or later. Maybe someone even took over maintainership in a fork or will do so soon.
No rush, but just to keep that in mind @nextcloud/notes. I guess @stefan-niedermann you have a similar situation with the Android library?
I recently came across https://github.com/nhnent/tui.editor which looks pretty nice and seems to be well maintained (at least for now) 😉 I guess we should at least collect some options and compare them. Also in terms of possible WYSIWYG options which have been requested quite often and for stuff like #200
I guess @stefan-niedermann you have a similar situation with the Android library?
From time to time... At the moment, the Android-lib is experiencing much attention by its maintainer. Of course this can change every day, but currently i would not describe our lib as "not maintained".
Moveing to something like previously suggested (https://github.com/nhnent/tui.editor) would be an HUGE improvement IMHO, or atleast something that resembles an wysiwyg editor
@jkaberg it seems like you’re looking for the Markdown app which renders code on the left and rendered Markdown on the right.
We aim to merge the two as best as possible so you don’t need to have two separate views. Our first priority is notes. Then something we can look into for the future is stuff like iOS Notes and Google Keep does like lists, images etc.
@jancborchardt actully no, I'm looking for a notes app with an WYSIWYG editor (as I have a hard time rembering syntaxes 😆), AFAIK neither the notes nor the markdown app has this
I've used https://stackedit.io/ in the past, and would love something like that with Nextcloud (I don't need the split pane thing in the markdown app)
I also use MarkText on the desktop and it is probably the most promising markdown editor I've tried so far. They also seem to move their rendering engine into a npm package, which would allow webapps to use it: https://github.com/MarkText/muya
That's a good link. I took a look through the options (with compatible licenses and usages) and it looks like CKEditor might be the one! It has plugins for typing and saving markdown, supports inline editing, is feature-rich, and appears to have good long-term support as it can also be licensed as a commercial product.
The markdown plugin appears to be built on codemirror-gfm as well, so it shouldn't be too hard to migrate any of our CSS/JS.
@PackElend thank you for taking the time to look into this! CKEditor is the best option I've seen so far!
Another reason to disable markdown for a page: look at the Boostnote Cheatsheet. This is supposed to be the "code" version of the page but the obligatory MDE still interpolates parts of this page so it's a jumbled mess. The creator attempted to `\ out markdown but it only works in places. I'm not sure if the markdown interpolator changed behavior since the author wrote this page, but to attempt to update it to figure out how to disable every single MDE interpolation would be a herculean task, especially if it were to change again.
Anyway, what I was going to suggest was perhaps a token to disable MDE in blocks, not all or nothing (raw effectively does that anyway) as this document is a case where portions intend to use MDE (for the links and such, obviously) but the rest of the code ought to be left as-is. I am not sure what happened in this particular document, but it a blocked approach to disable markdown would make these kinds if meta-docs easier to draft.
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korelstar commentedon Jun 5, 2018
Looks like Markdown isn't that hip anymore. :-(
sunjam commentedon Jun 5, 2018
Here is EasyMDE, a fork that has seen more maintenance. Mentioned in this thread on SimpleMDE. I have not tested it.
juliusknorr commentedon Jun 5, 2018
I recently came across https://github.com/nhnent/tui.editor which looks pretty nice and seems to be well maintained (at least for now) 😉 I guess we should at least collect some options and compare them. Also in terms of possible WYSIWYG options which have been requested quite often and for stuff like #200
stefan-niedermann commentedon Jun 7, 2018
From time to time... At the moment, the Android-lib is experiencing much attention by its maintainer. Of course this can change every day, but currently i would not describe our lib as "not maintained".
jkaberg commentedon Jul 25, 2018
Moveing to something like previously suggested (https://github.com/nhnent/tui.editor) would be an HUGE improvement IMHO, or atleast something that resembles an wysiwyg editor
jancborchardt commentedon Jul 25, 2018
@jkaberg it seems like you’re looking for the Markdown app which renders code on the left and rendered Markdown on the right.
We aim to merge the two as best as possible so you don’t need to have two separate views. Our first priority is notes. Then something we can look into for the future is stuff like iOS Notes and Google Keep does like lists, images etc.
jkaberg commentedon Jul 25, 2018
@jancborchardt actully no, I'm looking for a notes app with an WYSIWYG editor (as I have a hard time rembering syntaxes 😆), AFAIK neither the notes nor the markdown app has this
I've used https://stackedit.io/ in the past, and would love something like that with Nextcloud (I don't need the split pane thing in the markdown app)
korelstar commentedon Jul 25, 2018
The TUI Editor looks interesting to me. Maybe, the appearance can be configured, so that we can disable distracting elements?
korelstar commentedon Jul 25, 2018
Another hint from @biva in #214:
"Mark Text is a realtime preview editor text styles and formatting update automatically as you type".
https://marktext.github.io/website/
Looks also very interesting to me.Edit: Oh, that editor requires to be installed locally. Hence, it's not usable for us.
juliusknorr commentedon Jul 25, 2018
I also use MarkText on the desktop and it is probably the most promising markdown editor I've tried so far. They also seem to move their rendering engine into a npm package, which would allow webapps to use it: https://github.com/MarkText/muya
biva commentedon Sep 11, 2018
Would you consider using Muya?
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tnyeanderson commentedon Jun 2, 2019
That's a good link. I took a look through the options (with compatible licenses and usages) and it looks like CKEditor might be the one! It has plugins for typing and saving markdown, supports inline editing, is feature-rich, and appears to have good long-term support as it can also be licensed as a commercial product.
The markdown plugin appears to be built on codemirror-gfm as well, so it shouldn't be too hard to migrate any of our CSS/JS.
@PackElend thank you for taking the time to look into this! CKEditor is the best option I've seen so far!
PackElend commentedon Jun 2, 2019
You are more than welcome. Hope the note app reaching the same functionality as Joplin 😊
e-alfred commentedon Jun 2, 2019
Maybe Stackedit is also of interest:
https://github.com/benweet/stackedit
tnyeanderson commentedon Jun 2, 2019
We have already discussed StackEdit at length in this thread. It will not work for our purposes.
e-alfred commentedon Jun 3, 2019
@tnyeanderson Sorry, I missed that. I suppose markdown-it is also not suitable as a replacement?
https://github.com/markdown-it/markdown-it
It would be quite useful to have all the features QOwnNotes has in an in-browser notes editor using Markdown.
jancborchardt commentedon Jun 3, 2019
Thanks for your enthusiasm! But it feels like we’re going in circles – multiple alternatives have been mentioned now each multiple times. :)
We are testing out some alternatives at the moment, and @korelstar @juliushaertl will soon update you with news on that.
hinder90 commentedon Jul 30, 2019
Another reason to disable markdown for a page: look at the Boostnote Cheatsheet. This is supposed to be the "code" version of the page but the obligatory MDE still interpolates parts of this page so it's a jumbled mess. The creator attempted to `\ out markdown but it only works in places. I'm not sure if the markdown interpolator changed behavior since the author wrote this page, but to attempt to update it to figure out how to disable every single MDE interpolation would be a herculean task, especially if it were to change again.
Anyway, what I was going to suggest was perhaps a token to disable MDE in blocks, not all or nothing (raw effectively does that anyway) as this document is a case where portions intend to use MDE (for the links and such, obviously) but the rest of the code ought to be left as-is. I am not sure what happened in this particular document, but it a blocked approach to disable markdown would make these kinds if meta-docs easier to draft.
#204 Quickwin for category label
joshtrichards commentedon Aug 10, 2024
This got completed long ago via #290. :-)